Tuesday 7 March 2017

Jane Tanner Incongruences & other info

by Joana Morais---9 years ago





Gerry McCann met and talked during ten minutes with Jeremy Wilkins, his neighbour in the tourist complex of Ocean Club, in the night which Madeleine disappeared. The evidence of this man is vital to understand the events of the night of the 3rd of May in the Praia da Luz. According to several newspapers, when questioned by the Judicial Portuguese Police in Portimão, Wilkins defended that Gerry McCann was totally calm, which would not be characteristic of someone covering up his daughter’s death. Wilkins met Gerry about 21h10 of the night in which the child disappeared of the apartment of the Praia da Luz, after Madeleine’s father had allegedly gone to the apartment to check on the three children who were asleep.

Besides being an essential witness in the investigations of this process, the TV producer, 36-year-old Briton, was one of the first ones warning the Portuguese police to disregard the initial theory of kidnapping. It was him who detected mistakes in the testimony of key witness Jane Tanner, 37 years, friend of the McCann’s who had dinner with them; she assured to have seen a man carrying a child wrapped up in a blanket near the house where Maddie's parents were spending holidays. The Portuguese Police started to suspect the declarations made by Jane Tanner thanks to the logical arguments supplied by Wilkins. Jane Tanner’s incongruent statements “lifted more questions than it gave answers” - This places her in the top of the list of persons that the PJ want to question again.




The testimony of the head of factual entertainment for Zig Zag Productions told the Police that he met with Gerry McCann at 21h10 in the main street of Ocean Club, in between the vicinities of the swimming pool and the McCann’s apartment.
The two men, fans of tennis, had already played a few games during their holidays. In their meeting in the street, Wilkins was taking his eight-month-old son for a walk.
The producer assured to have talked with Gerry up to 10 minutes, the same period of time in which Jane Tanner affirms to have walked past the two men on her way back to the apartment to check her own children, and at the same time she stated to have seen a few meters up in the same road a white man carrying something similar to a child wrapped up in a blanket.







Wilkins, told cops he could not recall anyone walking past him. Furthermore in all the time he was there he saw no man carrying a child. The TV producer is convinced he would have seen Jane Tanner pass by. He said: "It was a very narrow path and I think it would have been almost impossible for anyone to walk by without me noticing”.
Gerry and Tanner returned to the restaurant separately shortly afterwards and it was 10 p.m. when Kate decided to check on her children in the apartment.



There is a presence of a third witness which confirms the fact that Gerry McCann was talking to Wilkins, an Irish teenager confirmed she saw the two men talking, for a few minutes, near the McCann’s apartment: “There was only the father of the little girl talking to another man.” She didn’t see Jane Tanner or any man carrying a child either.

The girl wasn't in the list of guests, as their presence at Ocean Club wasn't registered with the management. Father and daughter have been in Portugal, to help the Portuguese Police in the reconstruction of what happened in the night of May 3 and to give a formal statement to Police.




Jane Tanner claimed she saw the two men but that was a later addition to her first statement and continued to guarantee that, at the top of the street, she saw a man with a child in his arms. The entire abduction theory depends on her and yet she left a vomiting child alone in her apartment while she sat drinking with friends at the Tapas Bar (and according to the waiters statements never left the table all night).

Jane’s Tanner statements have changed until now, two times, first account was: The man, looking Caucasian, was wearing beige trousers, black shoes and was covered in a thick jacket. He was slim, his height was 5'7" and with dark short straight hair. According to her words, he was carrying "a child or an object that could have been taken as a child wrapped in a blanket" or “bundle of clothes”. He was going towards the church.




In her second report in BBC Panorama’s documentary she morphed the description of the abductor, from a white man to a 5'8'' tall swarthy Mediterranean looking man with “quite a lot of dark, reasonably-long-to-the-neck hair”; the vagueness description of the bundle was changed to the certainty of a girl in pink pyjamas .

Jane, who socialized with the girl on a daily basis, did not recognize her though she could memorize the details of the alleged kidnapper. He was around 35 - 40 years, brown skinned, wearing beige trousers, a dark coat and black formal shoes (though JT didn’t see his face she was able to get the “abductor’s” age?). The “abductor” this time was heading towards Murat's home.

According to her statement, the child was wearing pink pyjamas, seemed to be asleep and was barefoot. This was the detail that she found the strangest “…and I can remember thinking oh that parent is not a particularly good parent, they've not wrapped them up”.




That night, after Kate discovered the disappearance of her daughter (and after Jane supposedly confirmed with another friend that Maddie was wearing a pyjamas of that colour), Jane Tanner made no mention of it to anyone. “I did not want to worry Kate even further”, she later said.




However as proven here, the lights that illuminate that street are made of sodium, Praia da Luz uses sodium vapour street lamps, which give light only under an orange spectrum as explained more scientifically here.

Street lights are a very special kind of yellow light in that they only produce a very narrow set of colours. So rather than giving out a bit of every colour of the rainbow (as with white light), only yellow-orange wavelengths are given off. The overall outcome if there are no wavelengths of light to reflect back is essentially monochrome. In that orangey tone light, at that distance, she could not have discerned either the pattern or the colour of the pyjamas the child was wearing.




In addition, the pyjama bottoms are white with a tiny pink floral pattern, have 3/4 length, that is almost knee length (as shown in the picture). Therefore if Madeleine was being carried the way Jane Tanner declared the pyjamas would probably go even higher than the knee's line thus making it impossible for Jane Tanner to see the colour of those tiny flowers.

*Note: The Forensic Sketch of Madeleine's probable abductor was commissioned by the McCanns.


Excerpt of the Panorama Documentary for the full transcript go here for the documentary itself go here :

Gerry McCann
Speaking in August
I bumped into one guy I played tennis with in the street when I'd gone in to check, and that was the first time I think of any of the nights that I'd been going up and down that I saw anyone else really - five, six nights, and it was incredibly quiet.

Bilton: They spoke for a few minutes. At this time around 9.15 Jane Tanner thinks about checking on her children.

Jane Tanner
Friend of the McCanns
I think the starters were about to arrive so I thought oh, I'll go and do a check in sort of 20 minutes or so before last check. So I thought I'll go and do a check before the food arrives. So I just walked out of the restaurant, up the hill, I passed Gerry who was talking to one of his tennis friends at the time. And then after I'd past Gerry, at the top of the road I just saw somebody walking across the top of the road so I was a reasonable distance away from them, and that person was carrying a child.

Bilton: You say "a person." Male or female?

Jane Tanner: Oh a male, a male.

Bilton: And just describe that individual to us.

Jane Tanner: He was about probably 5'8 tall, he was taller than me but not 6' and so between those two. He was wearing quite a lot of clothes and that's one thing in hindsight again I think was quite odd because tourists when they're abroad, Brits abroad would always have cropped trousers or shorts or something, and he had a sort of a big heavy jacket and trousers on, and hair.. the one thing that I remember a lot is the hair. He did seem to have quite a lot of dark, reasonably-long-to-the-neck hair.

Bilton: Describe exactly what he's carrying, what you can see.

Jane Tanner: Well I could see.. I could tell it was a child, and I could see the feet and... feet and the bottom of the pyjamas, and I just thought that child's not got any shoes on because you could see the feet, and it was quite a cold night in Portugal in May it's not actually that warm, and I'd got a big jumper on, and I can remember thinking oh that parent is not a particularly good parent, they've not wrapped them up.

Bilton: And could you tell if it was a boy or a girl?

Jane Tanner: Only because the pyjamas had a pinky aspect to them so you presume a girl. It was actually quite cold.

Bilton: From your sketch he appears to be carrying the child in a sort of unusual way.

Jane Tanner: Yeah, he was carrying sort of across the body like that. I suppose in hindsight you'd probably think somebody would carry them more against the shoulder.

Bilton: And I have to ask you this. Are you absolutely sure of what you saw? It was a long time ago and it was only for a brief period?

Jane Tanner: Brief period but at the time I knew what I'd seen. I gave that information to the police and because of the pyjamas I'm absolutely convinced that is what I saw.



Joana Morais


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Wednesday, 15 April 2015

What's this about a football match Jane?
According to the police statements and the timeline created by Russell O'Brien, Gerry McCann left the table to check on Madeleine and the twins at 9:10pm on the 3rd May 2007. Jane Tanner left the table at 9:15pm and saw Gerry talking to Jez Wilkins on the street outside the McCanns apartment, 5a at 9:20pm. Nothing untoward about that version of events, even if it did take two attempts to draw up the timeline torn from the pages of Madeleine's sticker book. However, in a cutting edge documentary, Jane and Gerry have a discussion during which Jane talks about seeing Gerry on the street talking to Jez Wilkins:




"If you'd have been looking at me, coz I would have said something, coz Kate had been moaning that you'd been gone a long time watching the football"

Whoa, hold up! What football? There's no mention in the statements of Gerry being away watching football. 


Gerry doesn't even query this claim by Jane. What bothers me about this though, is that if Gerry did, as he says, leave the table at 9:10pm and Jane left at 9:15 that only leaves 5 minutes. The walk to the apartments takes approximately 2 minutes at a steady pace, that's 4 minutes there and back, 5 minutes if you allow a minute to check on the children. It's hardly long enough for Kate to be complaining that Gerry had been gone a long time watching the football. Although Russell O'Brien and Matt Oldfield did checks at 9:30 and 9:35 respectively, neither of them can confirm they actually saw Madeleine, which places Gerry, on record at least, as the last person to see Madeleine, and now it would seem away from the table for some time, and with no alibi for any more than 2 minutes, when Jez Wilkins and Jane Tanner saw him.


Another area for concern, is that during the cutting edge documentary, Gerry tries to contradict Jane and Jez's version of exactly where the conversation between himself and Jez took place. Gerry claims that he crossed the road to talk to Jez. whilst Jane is adamant this isn't true, she believes she saw Gerry on the same side of the road as apartment 5a. We know that Eddie, the cadaver dog, alerted to a light scent in the flower bed outside 5a, we also know Keela did not which strongly suggests that a human corpse was briefly placed in the flower bed. Almost as if it was in the process of being moved and had to be laid down temporarily. What could cause somebody to lay a dead body down outside the apartment it came from? Could it be the perpetrator was disturbed whilst moving the corpse, perhaps by somebody they knew? An abductor, surely would have hurried past a stranger in the street, much like the man Martin Smith saw did. If however Gerry was in the process of moving Madeleine, and he had spotted someone he knew walking towards him, he may well have laid Madeleine down out of sight, in the flower bed until the coast was clear. 



Excerpt from Jane Tanners Rogatory Interview 08 April 2008 here





Read Gerry McCann's statements here:












"I was carrying across the body like that"


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Thursday, 19 August 2010


BRITISH SENSATIONAL JOURNALISM at its best.



THE SUN reported on October 21st, 2008. 

KATE McCann and three friends discussed child-snatchers hours before daughter Madeleine disappeared, it has emerged. Dr Russell O'Brien, one of the so-called Tapas Seven, told police of the "haunting" conversation had while on holiday in Portugal last year. 

He said it came up after another father said he felt awkward photographing his own child. Dr O'Brien, 37, was with his partner Jane Tanner, 37, Rachel Oldfield, 37, and Kate, 40. 

He said: "We then had a conversation about the ludicrous pressure on parents that they can't take photos of their children. Stranger "The other aspect of the conversation, which is doubly haunting, was that we said, 'You're far more likely to get clobbered by your uncle or your neighbour than some random stranger'. "Since this happened ten or 11 hours before Madeleine was abducted, it seemed a very uncomfortable coincidence." 

The doctor, of Exeter, Devon, made his comments in April as he was quizzed by British cops at the request of the Portuguese authorities. 



THE DAILY MAIL reported September, 26th, 2007. 

SNIFFER DOGS ‘ FOUND SCENT OF DEATH’ ON MCCANNS FRIEND 

Friends of the McCanns faced fresh allegations yesterday after it was claimed that sniffer dogs had found the "scent of death" on one of them. 

The same police dog which reacted to Mrs McCann's clothes - first causing suspicion to fall on her - was alleged to have smelled "death" on one of the friends who had dinner with the couple the night Madeleine vanished. 

Police sources briefed a Portuguese newspaper that two police dogs from South Yorkshire, trained to detect corpses, human remains and microscopic traces of blood, had reacted to some items of clothing. 

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell denied categorically that any such procedure had happened. The newspaper did not reveal which of the friends' clothing was meant to have triggered the reaction. 

Police in South Yorkshire refused to comment. Detectives are writing to British police asking them to re-interview the seven friends the McCanns dined with on the night Madeleine vanished. 

Madeleine's parents were dining in a tapas restaurant just yards from the apartment in the Mark Warner Resort in the Algarve, Portugal, when their daughter disappeared. She had been sleeping inside the apartment with her brother and sister, twins Sean and Amelie. 

According to reports from Portugal, all of those dining with the McCanns that night face further police questioning because their accounts of the night's events allegedly clashed. 

Leicestershire police have consistently refused to comment on its role in the investigation and directed all questions to Portugal. A spokeswoman said: "As the inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is a Portuguese police investigation it is not appropriate for us to comment on it. Our role is to assist the Portuguese authorities, when and if they request it, with UK based inquiries. "But because it is a Portuguese investigation, and because of the judicial system there, we are not able to disclose the nature of those inquires." 

The seven friends - who, with the McCanns, make up the Tapas Nine - have been steadfast in their loyalty to Madeleine's family. The group - most of them doctors and professionals - was made up of: 

Dr Russell O'Brien, 36

A consultant in acute medicine at the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital, he knew Gerry McCann from Leicester. He was on holiday with his partner Jane Tanner and their two young daughters. At 9.25pm he left the restaurant for around 25 minutes to check on one of the girls, who was ill. He has been subject to a vicious Portuguese press campaign alleging he was absent for over an hour when Madeleine went missing. He has threatened to sue, insisting: "These reports are completely untrue and extremely hurtful."

Jane Tanner, 37 

Dr O'Brien's partner. She arrived late at the tapas bar after treating their sick daughter. On the way, she passed the McCanns' apartment and saw a man carrying a child. Crucially, her description of the child's clothes matched Madeleine's pink pyjamas. 

Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37 

Dr Oldfield, an endocrinologist at Kingston Hospital in South-West London, went to check the McCann children at 9 25pm. But he did not look inside the flat - simply listened from outside to ensure Madeleine and the twins were not crying. 

Rachael Oldfield, 36 

Dr Oldfield's wife, a former lawyer who is now a recruitment consultant. She is one of four witnesses who claim to have seen the first suspect, British expat Robert Murat, near the McCanns' flat. Last month she angrily dismissed reports that police had intercepted phone calls and emails between the McCanns and their friends which contradicted the group's earlier statements. Mrs Oldfield accused Portuguese police of "throwing mud when we are not able to defend oursleves" 

David Payne, 41 

Mr Payne is a senior research fellow in cardiovascular sciences at Leicester University He and his wife and mother-in-law joined the group at 8.55pm. They are believed to have been the only ones using a baby monitor to check on their two children. Mr Payne has said: "All these smears and rumours are overshadowing the important thing, which is to get Madeleine back." 

Dr Fiona Payne, 34 

Mr Payne's wife, she is understood to have told police she saw Mr Murat shortly after Madeleine vanished. Dr Payne and her husband stayed on in the Algarve to support the McCanns. When the couple were made official suspects, she said: "It's an outrage - a preposterous accusation." 

Dianne Webster Dr Payne's mother. 

She has given no public interviews. 

(This newspaper article STILL available on the Internet and RUSSELL O’BRIAN, it would seem, has not sued anyone. The Daily Mail ,did not use the word ALLEGED ,which gets you out of a tight spot where the Mccanns lawyers Carter Ruck are concerned.)

---------------------------- AND now looking at some facts about the SHY Dr.Russell O’Brian and how kind the police were to him in Leicestershire and how unfortunate the video for his first interview seemed to have ‘Technical failure’.

Not only that, the kind Policeman let Russell read Jane Tanners,( his partners) statement to remind him of the events . THE EVENTS, who could forget the events of May 3rd 2007?

What kind of person would need to ‘REFRESH’ their memory of such a dreadful night? how could anyone forget the ‘disappearance’ of a child, NOT anychild, BUT their friends child, MADELEINE. (Is it within the law to allow a witness to check anothers statement ? OR ,was this to make sure they both agreed ? It seems Leicestershire Constabulary make up their own rules where these Doctors are concerned.)

RUSSELL O’BRIAN said. ------------------------ "I have been given the opportunity to refresh my memory at the start of the report by Jane Tanner (partner) and it allowed me to see these documents, which have been done in the presence of DC 1578 Gierc," said O 'Brien. (O'Brien was interviewed twice, on 8 and April 10, 2008, but strangely, his first interview could not be recorded on video because, according to British police, there would be a "technical failure") The second interview, Russell O'Brien by the officer Andrew Gierc, was recorded on video.

CURIOUS AND INTERESTING O’BRIANS partner JANE TANNER gave her witness statement to PJ May 4th, 2007 The time 11.30 am JANE was clear about the type of clothing she saw the ‘abductor’ wearing. He was wearing linen type cloth trousers, beige to golden in colour, a “duffy” sic type jacket (but not that thick).

KATE McCANN Did not give her statement until 2.20 pm the afternoon of May 4th. Kate and Jane would have had plenty of time to talk about the man she saw and what he was wearing...

LOOK what Kate McCann has to say. Thus, at around 9pm, her husband went to the apartment to make sure the twins, as well as Madeleine, were OK, then he went back to the restaurant. Her husband said that the children were doing well and that he had bumped into the person with whom he had played tennis, a person who has two children. At the same time, one of the group of friends, Russell, went to see his children, without checking on the interviewee's children. Later, a member of the group, Russell's partner Jane, when she went to her apartment to see her children at around 9.15pm, saw from the back [rear] about 50 metres away, on the perimeter road of the club, a long-haired person, in what she thinks were jeans, with a child in his arms and walking very quickly.

But she is better able to tell you about that herself. --------------------------- JEANS.....I am interested as to why Kate mentions JEANS when her friend has already stated the clothes were linen and the colour beige. KATE also mentions the ‘abductor’ had LONG hair.....again without being prompted, states JANE will be able to tell you about that herself, BUT Kate knew Tanner had already been interviewed.

JEANSs seem to have been on JANE TANNERS mind a lot...in her rogatory statement without being prompted she feels she must explain she did not take JEANS on holiday to PDL. Reply “Yeah. Erm, I’m just trying to, well I’ve walked out of the, walked out of the, erm, the Tap, you know, walked sort of into the reception of the Tapas Bar and obviously walked up the road. I remember I was wearing, because it was cold, I’d got Russell’s big, I’d borrowed one of his, erm, fleeces, so I’d got a big sort of fleece, it probably came down to about here, but then I’d got flip-flops on and cropped trousers, because I’d only got, I didn’t take jeans, I know I didn’t take jeans on holiday, and then. Oh I’m sidetracking a bit, but that’s why I knew one of the pictures in the paper wasn’t from the holiday, because I hadn’t got jeans on the holiday with me, so. Erm, yeah, and I’d got cropped trousers on and just flip-flops, so I can remember sort of walking, I couldn’t walk that quickly because I’d got these silly flip-flops on and I couldn’t walk that, that well in them, so to speak." 

JEREMY WILKINS had already seen JANE TANNER earlier in the evening of May 3rd, standing outside an apartment, she was wearing a PURPLE dress.

TANNER talks of a photograph in the newspaper of her wearing JEANS.... If this photograph exists has anyone seen it.? If they have, it is IMPORTANT to JANE for you to know it was NOT taken in PDL. The ONLY photograph to my knowledge of TANNER, outside of PDL is of her on the COURT steps to collect her money..which she gave to the FUND.

Back to the ‘Sensational Journalism’ and the JEANS. The McCanns are desperate to get their hands on information PJ still have ..information ONLY known to them.

Their meeting and talks of REVIEWS have nothing to do with wanting the case re-opened, it has been three years and we all know this is something those in the’ know ‘will never let happen. BUT I have to wonder if the JEANS exist, are they in the hands of PJ and do they hold ‘The scent of cadaver?’

Why did Kate McCann say a long haired person wearing JEANS.?...TANNER has long hair BUT insists any photographs of her that MAY exist wearing JEANS were not from when she was in PDL. Is there a tourist out there somewhere with a photograph ot TANNER in the background wearing jeans in PDL?

An unknown tourist who does not realise the significance of this photograph. I have no idea why, but these JEANS are of great importance to JANE TANNER and from KATE MCCANNS suggestion of JEANS in her statement, again ,without being prompted, KATE knows the reason why.



UPDATE: ------- TANNER from her ROGATORY STATEMENT: "I remember what I was wearing because it was cold, I'd borrowed one of RUSSELLS'S FLEECES." "BUT I did not take JEANS with me to PDL:" ----------------------------------------- Jane offered this information about her clothing without being asked. Do you remember the bag found along the road leading to FARO airport and what it contained?

There are two items of interest and if I was a devious person there is a way I could use these items to buy someones silence. Suppose, just suppose, the BLUE BAG missing from the MCCANNS bedroom wardrobe in the apartment was used for a pair of JEANS and a FLEECE.

The owner of the bag promised to dispose of BOTH items BUT just suppose that promise was not fulfilled. If I were a devious person I may just keep them for future use. USE SUCH AS THIS. JUST A REMINDER AS TO WHO IS IN CHARGE....and in case anyone in the future thought of changing their statements.

NEWS OF THE WORLD ----------------- 
Maddie DNA clue in airport bag Traces found on fleece and stained jeans 
By Dominic Herbert, 03/11/2007 

A BAG of clothes containing DNA linked to Madeleine McCann has been found dumped by a road in Portugal. The white carrier bag was discovered in a layby two weeks ago near Faro airport, the News of the World can reveal. Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann have learned the bag contained a blue fleece jacket and a pair of adult jeans with traces of DNA that contained "moderate" links to the missing four-year-old. There was also a SHOWER CURTAIN inside.

News of the find came as it emerged police hunting for the youngster have asked the Mafia to help. Crime godfathers in Morocco-where there have been several alleged sightings of Maddie-have been told cops will scale back drug busts if they do. 

Meanwhile, the bag, found by a passer-by, was sent to a UK lab in Birmingham for forensic tests. A leaked report showed experts concluded the clothes contained bodily fluid and traces of hair that could have come from Maddie. Skin Other items recovered from the bag included a white flannel, a green elastic band, a light green child's T-shirt with a green flower on the front and a pink and blue pencil case with a pink heart motif.

A source said: "The bag could be crucial. The DNA isn't an exact match to Maddie's, but it does link. "It is the first clue found outside the apartment complex and could provide a trail." The report-which was handed to detectives ten days ago-was obtained by the News of the World from Portuguese police sources. 

The jeans contained more than 60 different stains. The report concluded: "The blue fleece and jeans were found to contain traces of congealed skin and hair. "They were found to contain DNA characteristics that could be attributed to Madeleine McCann." No traces of Maddie's DNA were found on any of the other items. 

The fresh clues will give Kate and Gerry, both 39, renewed hope of finding their daughter alive six months after she disappeared. Last night a friend of the McCanns said: "It potentially suggests that someone has taken her then disposed of the clothing. "They have done it near Faro which could imply they have gone in the direction of the airport. It backs up the idea she was abducted." 

 Last Sunday the News of the World revealed that the crack Spanish detective agency hired by the McCanns, Metodo 3, are convinced the youngster was snatched to order then smuggled from Portugal to Morocco. Last night it looked like Mafia bosses will AGREE to use their underworld connections in the hunt for Maddie. 

 ---------------- The DNA 'EVIDENCE' was reported November 3rd 2007 We then had this report dated November 11th 2007

DAILY MAIL REPORTED., NOVEMBER 11th 2007 Madeleine: 

Changes in evidence from Tapas Nine could 'dramatically change investigation' 09 November 2007 

Changes in the evidence of two of the so-called Tapas Nine could "dramatically change" the Madeleine McCann investigation, it was claimed yesterday. 

The pair who allegedly want to correct their version of events were named yesterday in a Portuguese newspaper as Russell O'Brian and his partner Jane Tanner. Miss Tanner has given a key account of seeing a man carrying a child away from the McCanns' apartment. 

Both her and Dr O'Brian deny that they have contacted police to change their statements........


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